Topic: impassable water
einstein13
Joined: 2013-07-29, 00:01
Posts: 1116  One Elder of Players Location: Poland |
Posted at: 2015-10-26, 12:15
Both should be changed. I didn't spot the brown color there in a first sight. It is well balanced, so the balance should stay. I am not saying that it will be better. Now I can't tell you that. But if it isn't much work, please check it. einstein13 
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kaputtnik
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Joined: 2013-02-18, 20:48
Posts: 2550 OS: Archlinux Version: current master One Elder of Players Location: Germany |
Posted at: 2015-10-26, 22:42
I have changed the saturation a bit:
The new pattern in comparison with the old one. I changed also the speed/intesity of waving:
This should fit i think. When creating new stuff one is attempted to make the change more visible as it should be Edited: 2020-06-01, 09:43
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wl-zocker
Joined: 2011-12-30, 17:37
Posts: 492  Tribe Member Location: Germany |
Posted at: 2015-10-26, 22:58
I think the colors fit now better to the rest of the blackland world. But these algae look very instable. I cannot imagine walking on them, not to mention build roads and flags on them. Are you sure you want to make the terrain passable? "Only few people know how much one has to know in order to know how little one knows." - Werner Heisenberg
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einstein13
Joined: 2013-07-29, 00:01
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 03:20
+1
I guess that it is only for testing purpose. In the end the terrain will be impassable for ships (like land) and workers (like water), but fish will be possible to put. Now we haven't such a terrain so kaputtink made it as passable for workers. einstein13
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GunChleoc
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 09:26
I thought the plan was to make it possible to build flags and roads? Busy indexing nil values
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kaputtnik
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 10:41
Hmmm... i thought this too: Because it should be different from swamp (which isn't passable). The terrain isn't arable, so while playing there is less chance to have roads on it. Maybe on some small areas where a tower has increased territory with algae slick nearby. Another thing would be to have such terrains bridged:
Currently there is no possibility to have terrain dependent roads, so i used the footbridge for all roads for this screenshot... Edited: 2015-10-27, 10:43
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king_of_nowhere
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 11:08
i like the idea that roads on that terrain would show as bridges; if we want to keep with the theme, it could be made impassable to workers in the absence of bridges; sort of like the Venice lagoon, which is a shallow body of water (around 2 meters) where people were able to build bridges, and indeed a whole city on them, but cannot pass by foot. Going with that theme, it would also not be arable; unlike desert, farms could not plant crops on it, and foresters would not be able to plant trees. However, I'm afraid adding all those new features would require a lot of coding
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einstein13
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 12:22
I thought that it is "water". And I thought that water is not passable for humans (history can remember only one person walking on the water). Bridges? Ok, that is possible to build bridges on it- I like the idea. But should the bridges be made from wood or other materials? or you are thinking about free bridges (like roads)? I remember that part of this discussion was in the past, but I can't remember the results. einstein13
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kaputtnik
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 13:07
In this post are some difficulties described. In the end we need a new "is" value for this type of terrain. Something in between "dry" and "water". See Bug for a new is value. Great bridges (f.e. made from stone) are another issue and would surely need very much coding. Having footbridges made from wood (like in the screenshot) is just a suggestion. I believe this could be made without much effort on coding. But if we want such footbridges, there has to be also a footbridge representing a busy road. And, well, we have to create such bridges for every tribe... What about winter ice-floes? Currently ships can navigate on this terrain which looks uncommon. Should we define ice-floes with the new is value too? This means that
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GunChleoc
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Posted at: 2015-10-27, 13:25
I am wondering if we should allow small buildings on this terrain - this all depends on which types of map we want to design with it. E.g. there could be a long stretch of such terrain to overcome by building sentries in order to reach an island on the other end. If we don't allow small buildings, one would maybe need to build a big military site on shore in order to reach the other end. Busy indexing nil values
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So i am happy to have some response 
