Topic: Widelands player rating: call for games
trimard![]() Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-07-28, 14:13
Hello dear widelands players! We are trying to create a constant widelands ranking between players. The first stage isn't even attained, but what is sure is that we are gonna need a lot of data to make it work fine. Hence why I declare open the widelands ranking on this thread! How does it works?Each player that want to participate have to say so in this thread. ==> No game will be taken into account if all players involved didn't specify they wanted to participate in the ranking BEFORE the game. After a game, any one of the player (see Rules for exceptions) has to send here, using the template below:
Template (markdown)Copy and paste this in your post
And Please put the replay in your comment, now that the feature is available Rules
The rules and detail might need a change in the future. I'm sorry I don't have the experience of some other people here in organizing these stuff Current scoretechnical data
current configuration is:
Current rankingEdited: 2019-09-08, 23:19
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WorldSavior![]() |
Posted at: 2019-07-28, 17:26
Awesome!
What about "Notice that autocrat matches on maps with separate islands may result in a draw". And what about using a time limit, for example something like 50h of game time? I think that it could make sense to limit the allowed maps to official maps which are not marked as imbalanced, plus the maps of the 2019 tournament. Otherwise, it would also be allowed to play on a map where blue player cannot lose, but still win. This could be exploited to manipulate the own rating number... Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked ![]() ![]() |
trimard![]() Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-07-28, 17:34
I agree, but I think all maps should be accepted. Just not in the same mode. There is a ranked "all map, all mode" in the initial proposition. Besides. If we want to make a selected pool of map, I would prefer we select much fewer map that the current "officials" ones. But I think we should keep that in mind for latter. After we have more ideas on what the system will look like. For now on, the real important factor we have a lack of, is games played, and data to play with. Let's say it's the first season or something? Btw, should I count you in? ![]() ![]() |
WorldSavior![]() |
Posted at: 2019-07-28, 18:08
What are the other modes?
Depends on your ideas with the modes
Yes. Who is up for a rated match? Edited: 2019-07-28, 18:16
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trimard![]() Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-07-28, 20:13
there is:
Sorry, I didn't intend to have this discussion on that thread though, maybe we should keep implementation issues in the other thread. Here it's for rules and people who want to join and play.
Me :), next week end? See scheduling. Edited: 2019-07-28, 20:14
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king_of_nowhere![]() |
Posted at: 2019-07-28, 20:28
i think the tournament should be retroactively rated. regardless, i want to be put in the ranking for the future ![]() ![]() |
WorldSavior![]() |
Posted at: 2019-07-29, 20:32
I could be happy with that, but imho it should only be done if everybody in the tournament agrees.
Okay... As I mentioned in the other thread, imbalanced and/or inofficial maps could be abused to manipulate the rating, so an "all map" rating could get pointless eventually. And what about to select already all official non-imbalanced maps + fjords 1.2 + crossriver artifacts for 1vs1 and 2vs2? Suggestion for the rules: "Version has to be build 20 or newer" Is it allowed to play 1vs2 in the 2vs2 mode?
It's not only an implementation issue, it's also a rule issue
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the-x![]() |
Posted at: 2019-07-29, 20:44
World und ich wollen ein / zwei gewertetes Spiel spielen, auf Crossriver Artifacts, Alleinherrscher, 29.7. 22 Uhr edit: world hat gewonnen Falls jemand noch Rating Spiele spielen will, schreibt einfach ne pm Edited: 2019-07-29, 22:31
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WorldSavior![]() |
Posted at: 2019-07-29, 22:29
Translation: "World(Savior) and me want to play a rated match, at crossriver arti., autocrat" So, that's what we did, and we also played another rated match with identical setup. So: both matches are:
the-x
WorldSavior 1 - 0 the-x
Crossriver Artifacts from the tournament
autocrat
I don't know the upload page a lot. Is it fine? match 1: https://ufile.io/yjrpts50 match 2: https://ufile.io/gew7nn6i
both matches in 1 part each. Beginning match 1: 19/7/29 21:46 Beginning match 2: 19/7/29 22:26 Edit1: The upload page deletes the files after 30 days. @Launchpad Admins: Would it be possible to attach files to another bug report at launchpad? Edit2: Both matches have been intensely and the-x played very well Edit 3:
Translation: "World(Savior) has won". Edited: 2019-07-30, 16:32
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trimard![]() Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-07-30, 18:13
ooh! Dind't think you would say so! Cool! Should I add everyone directly or asks every player? I think I can add the score of every players that participate in the ranking and has played in the tournament.
Thanks
Nice!.. But, I'm wondering, should I be authoritarian and say that "the-x" should have said he would particpate? Or should I rather be tolerant, knowing that the purpose of such rules is to avoid people not reporting game where they loosed? I know it's a scenario that risk happening a lot more in the future so I ask! Waiting for answers before adding them Anyway, I'm now counting the-x in, that's for sure.
For the future please try to use the template given above, so it'll be easier for me to retrieve the data when reading the post. I've modified the description to talk about that. But thanks to have answered all the questions! So that's what the data look like:
match 2:
I'm not surprised, I think I'll watch these replays!
Yes why not? Though, are there really such "all official" non-imbalanced maps ?
Yes, good point. Maybe even restrict to build20 only? Some op features could appear in the trunk, even more so than there is discussion around balance. On the other hand, more players for the trunk means more bug report. I don't know.
Edited: 2019-07-30, 18:20
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