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WorldSavior
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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 15:05

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

replay is not complete as i had to reload

But there must be another part somewhere? Why don't you share it?

because I don't know which one is it I just needed to reload from an automatic save from an intermediate attempt. If you really insist I'll go and search for it. Although it might run further then the time the new repaly starts.

OK found it watch this one until 09:05 then switch to the previously provided.

Okay... But it cannot be watched. Do you know why? When I try to watch, it says "the replay has ended" immediately...

AAAAhhh. This was fingertrouble on my side. I identified the correct replay in the game and failed to proper select the files in the file explorer. This should be the correct one.

It works now, but I think that the faster result should rather not count. Recycling older tries is against the rules - or is this not clear? Difficult...


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hessenfarmer
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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 15:52

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

replay is not complete as i had to reload

But there must be another part somewhere? Why don't you share it?

because I don't know which one is it I just needed to reload from an automatic save from an intermediate attempt. If you really insist I'll go and search for it. Although it might run further then the time the new repaly starts.

OK found it watch this one until 09:05 then switch to the previously provided.

Okay... But it cannot be watched. Do you know why? When I try to watch, it says "the replay has ended" immediately...

AAAAhhh. This was fingertrouble on my side. I identified the correct replay in the game and failed to proper select the files in the file explorer. This should be the correct one.

It works now, but I think that the faster result should rather not count. Recycling older tries is against the rules - or is this not clear? Difficult...

It was not explicitly forbidden, as far as I could read so far.

Edited: 2020-04-12, 15:53

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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 17:14

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

It works now, but I think that the faster result should rather not count. Recycling older tries is against the rules - or is this not clear? Difficult...

It was not explicitly forbidden, as far as I could read so far.

The rules say: "start your game, train one soldier to the highest level and save immediately" - so the game should be started from the beginning and not loaded. So I'm not going to accept further matches which are loaded from another try. However, if nobody is against it, I might turn a blind eye to this one match at the end of the tournament so it can count.

I'm going to change the rules now: Only replays from the beginning to the end are accepted, they must not be in parts. If they are newer than this rule.


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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 18:12

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

It works now, but I think that the faster result should rather not count. Recycling older tries is against the rules - or is this not clear? Difficult...

It was not explicitly forbidden, as far as I could read so far.

The rules say: "start your game, train one soldier to the highest level and save immediately" - so the game should be started from the beginning and not loaded. So I'm not going to accept further matches which are loaded from another try. However, if nobody is against it, I might turn a blind eye to this one match at the end of the tournament so it can count.

I'm going to change the rules now: Only replays from the beginning to the end are accepted, they must not be in parts. If they are newer than this rule.

If this is going to be the rule I don't want my attempt to be counted, this would be a lex hessenfarmer which I can't accept.

Sorry for causiong trouble. I simply was not aware this is not intended.


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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 18:24

@ WorldSavior

BTW: it seems you got something wrong in the results. if you don't count KoN's results, cause the replay is missing, my amazons attempt was arounf 50 minutes. the 3750 was on the not allowed empire try. The allowed empire try you took from the replay was 4203 as you correctly inserted so you might want to correct my amazons value back to previous.
Perhaps (if it is not to much work) you could add KoN's times in the table with brackets so we have an overview of which times to beat he surely will deliver the replays in time

Thanks again for organising this whole thing as it already brought fun and enlightment for me.


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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 19:06

hessenfarmer wrote:

if you don't count KoN's results, cause the replay is missing,

something is missing from my files? i attached the saved game


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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 19:22

The tournament rules demand to upload a complete replay as discussed 3 posts above. So you should upload a replay to ensure you achieved this in one run.


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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 20:05

hessenfarmer wrote:

The tournament rules demand to upload a complete replay as discussed 3 posts above. So you should upload a replay to ensure you achieved this in one run.

I don't understand this requirement. the timer shown on the top left of the screen tells the time since the beginning of the game. if that timer says 25 minutes, it means the game has lasted 25 minutes.

Is there some way to cheat on it that would force to require a full replay as verification?

I don't want to make trouble, this is just curiosity. I will post the replays as soon as i can be bothered to look through the pile of them for the right ones

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Posted at: 2020-04-12, 20:42

hessenfarmer wrote:

The tournament rules demand to upload a complete replay as discussed 3 posts above. So you should upload a replay to ensure you achieved this in one run.

As the replays are older than the new rule, it's also okay if they are in parts. But they are necessary.

You don't have to upload them right now, you can wait until the deadline comes near, like I do it.

king_of_nowhere wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

The tournament rules demand to upload a complete replay as discussed 3 posts above. So you should upload a replay to ensure you achieved this in one run.

I don't understand this requirement. the timer shown on the top left of the screen tells the time since the beginning of the game. if that timer says 25 minutes, it means the game has lasted 25 minutes.

Is there some way to cheat on it that would force to require a full replay as verification?

Theoretically yes. And aren't replays some kind of tournament tradition? It's better if one can see how everyone plays, isn't it?

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

hessenfarmer wrote:

WorldSavior wrote:

It works now, but I think that the faster result should rather not count. Recycling older tries is against the rules - or is this not clear? Difficult...

It was not explicitly forbidden, as far as I could read so far.

The rules say: "start your game, train one soldier to the highest level and save immediately" - so the game should be started from the beginning and not loaded. So I'm not going to accept further matches which are loaded from another try. However, if nobody is against it, I might turn a blind eye to this one match at the end of the tournament so it can count.

I'm going to change the rules now: Only replays from the beginning to the end are accepted, they must not be in parts. If they are newer than this rule.

If this is going to be the rule I don't want my attempt to be counted, this would be a lex hessenfarmer which I can't accept.

As you wish. I believe you can make an even better time anyway face-wink.png

Sorry for causiong trouble. I simply was not aware this is not intended.

No big problem

hessenfarmer wrote:

@ WorldSavior

BTW: it seems you got something wrong in the results. if you don't count KoN's results, cause the replay is missing, my amazons attempt was arounf 50 minutes. the 3750 was on the not allowed empire try.

Thanks for the hint

Perhaps (if it is not to much work) you could add KoN's times in the table with brackets so we have an overview of which times to beat he surely will deliver the replays in time

Yes, why not...

Thanks again for organising this whole thing as it already brought fun and enlightment for me.

You're welcome


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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 09:19

I wanted to upload my replays, but there is a problem: they all end a few minutes before the actual end of the game. no idea why, possibly because replays are saved at regular intervals. anyway, i'm not able to produce complete replays, and i don't know how to ensure that further replays will be complete. I also don't know if others have similar problems or how they are circumventing them.

for amazons it's ok, i wanted to improve that time anyway, but with atlanteans i had managed to break the 20 minutes barrier (with exactly 1 second to spare! the dungeon works really slowly), and I only have the saved game with it.

by the way, I see a problem.the way the tournament is set, it encourages people to hide their results. you publish yours, someone can just look at your replay and do it 1 second better. i've been considering hiding my best results until the end, but it seems ugly. against the spirit of the competition.


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