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Topic: Tempo Training Tournament

hessenfarmer
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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 11:47

@ king_of_nowhere:
replays consist of a starting savegame and a series of all actions written to a file. So if a replay ends some time before your hero left, then you have probably done nothing in this else time then waiting. which means if you continue the replay and let it simply run it must come to hte same state at the same time when your hero was finished.
So if you have them you could check this behaviour and upload them. to have them running until the end. I pasue the game when the hero is finished, make the save and then I build a single road before leaving the game this gets written to the replay and it runs fine until this point of time.
I did find out the complete behaviour of this during this tournament though.
Hope this helps.
And I fully appreciate that you don't hide your results, cause for me it is more fun in terms of competition even it may frustrate me. copyplaying isn't that easy either as I am not able to do it error free. I wouldn't mind anyway if you hide the replay and just send the result so we know how good our results are.
May be WorldSavior could do the same so just sending the savegame and result without the replay would give both of you a challenge probably


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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 12:30

oh, i see. replay ended because soldier was in dungeon, all i needed was wait, so i didn't make any further move. but if one give ok and unpauses, the replay keeps going, and the soldier is made at the same time. So, the replay is still legit.

As far as posting times, i know my only chance of winning would be to wait until the last evening to post my best times, because otherwise worldsavior won't stop trying until he beats them. And he will post his times only in the end. he did exactly the same in the economy tournament. but if he cares for winning so much, it's not something worth getting all hung up.

so, here it is: atlanteans 19:59. version 6762


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hessenfarmer
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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 14:16

my next attempt on frisians with the ama6762 branch.
after 38:58 the hero is finished, although he leaves the building 7,2 seconds later due to scrap material first being carred out.


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hessenfarmer
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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 14:16

savegame


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WorldSavior
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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 16:58

hessenfarmer wrote:

after 38:58 the hero is finished, although he leaves the building 7,2 seconds later due to scrap material first being carred out.

Correct! Let's consider this a bug?

king_of_nowhere wrote:

but if he cares for winning so much, it's not something worth getting all hung up.

Relax please. If you have a suggestion for the rule format of Eco Tournaments of the future, I would be interested to hear it.

hessenfarmer wrote:

May be WorldSavior could do the same so just sending the savegame and result without the replay would give both of you a challenge probably

Sorry, my savegames would tell too much. And the tournament is a challenge anyway face-wink.png

king_of_nowhere wrote:

with atlanteans i had managed to break the 20 minutes barrier (with exactly 1 second to spare!

Congratulations!


Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked

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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 19:48

OK, new try with Barbarians, it's really hard to do hero in 40min!! I beat my own time: 47:50


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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 19:48

and the savegame


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the-x
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Posted at: 2020-04-13, 23:23

I tried with Frisians - 37:28. Its my first try but it's a bit funny, that they need double the time as an Atlantean (19 min)

hessenfarmer wrote:

May be WorldSavior could do the same so just sending the savegame and result without the replay would give both of you a challenge probably

Sorry, my savegames would tell too much. And the tournament is a challenge anyway face-wink.png

I am also supporting the Idea that we upload our savegames


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Posted at: 2020-04-14, 01:38

Frisians a second time, this time 32:48 this time i tried to optimize my economy - (last time i was playing against some AI and therefore investetet in different things than only my hero). Well i think this is close to the limit, though i didnt know a thing that was not perfect played. For anyone who beat this time, come see my after the Tournament and you will win a beer (a real beer or something aquivalent) - i am also a bit excited for your try world, since i know that your economy is quite nice too, and of course kon, Mr. Eco face-wink.png and everyone who wants to challange that beer.


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Posted at: 2020-04-14, 01:53

hessenfarmer wrote:

my next attempt on frisians with the ama6762 branch.
after 38:58 the hero is finished, although he leaves the building 7,2 seconds later due to scrap material first being carred out.

Well played, your getting better 7 minutes every try - its nice to see how at first like Tournament 2019 nices times, different strategies but now optimizing eco, and your eco is quite good what i thought yesterday when we were playing


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