Topic: Tournament 2022

+1 from me as well. However this would need to be implemented in the metaserver so @Notabilis is the one with the power to make it happen

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Hello,

I love this game and I deeply appreciate, how many time and work so many of you have put into it in the last decades, thank you! Although I am thinking about some game things, at the moment (as I have no technical skills at all) I am not providing any practical work to the game. So others are doing the practical work and I am not doing anthing of it, which I find a bit pity and not pretty fair.

When this thread was opened, I first thought: „OK, if one could help the developers to test the release candidate version by taking part in the tournament, then I could do that! :-)“

My second thought was: „But, well, as I am playing (as I like it) veeeeeeery slow (= weak; weaker even than the weak AI g), maybe it would not be soooooooo nice to lose all games by getting slaughtered to the bone every single time! :-(“ [g] But, because for sure there will be so many other participants, it would not matter if I participate or not, so there's no need to get slaughtered... g

But by now, as the tournament start is only about one week away but nonetheless by now not that many participants registered, my third thought in the last days was: „OK, I'll get slaughtered – but if that does help the developers with the game, it's fine and doesn't matter for me!“ ggg

So please count me in as participant, too, if you want to. (I probably will have only enough time to play on saturdays (and before the Sportschau begins g, but that is not a must . If my job gets too stressfull, I would quit the tournament, but I'll try to stick to it until the end.)

As I read the following in the tournament rules:

"6) allowed features All new features of widelands are allowed in principle if both players agree on it: e.g. peaceful mode, custom start position etc."

, it came to my mind that the participants stronger than me (thus, all others g) could take into account that when playing against me, that we then maybe could agree on a not-that-bloody win condition, like e.g., to play in peaceful mode and as win condition either

• Sammler [collector] (= 4 hours), or

• Waldschrat [woodgnome?] (= 4 hours) or

• Landherr (Zeit) [landlord (time)] (= max. 4 hours)

• don't know if artifacts would also be able as win condition in tournament game maps/time schedules

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As I recently read by random somewhere I forgot in the forum ( https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/2876/ and https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/2899/?page=1#post-20816 ) that WorldSavior likes sheeps' sounds very much (if I recall the posts correctly ), of course I'll build as many game keepers huts as possible and none hunter huts, so that when trying to conquering my territory he'll get flooded by an army of sheep which will sing him into sleep with their beautiful sheep voice lullaby . OK, maybe it wasn't that clever to uncover my strategy for a safe win before the game started, but on the other hand I now have an unbeatable excuse if I unexpectedly would lose nonetheless: „You only won because I granted you to get to know my safe-win-strategy before – so there's nothing to it by you!“ ;-) Anyhow, can someone before the start of the tournament please implement the option at the game keeper's hut to choose which type of animal is created there, in case like this if I wanna only e.g. sheep?

(if one has not enough time for a 4-hour-game, I nonetheless also would agree on a non-peaceful game.)

[btw, I am noticing I am missing the option/win condition „kamikaze“ or „Selbstversenkung“(like the pirates in the Asterix comics, hehe), or etc.... Could anyone please also implement this before the start of the tournament so that I would have the chance to win a game? That would be very nice. Thank you! ]

(I normally only play Barbarians – I tried the other tribes as well, but I prefer them.)

Although I don't wanna ask for an altering of the tournament rules in the last minute before start, a question came to my mind, which is the following: What would be if we would think about to allow for players to participate in the tournament with giving them the option to choose by themself before the start of the tournament, if their results will be counted for them (so that they would be able to win the tournament ranking but also could end at the bottom of the tableau) or if their results would be ignored for them (so that they will not be listed in the ranking at all, regardless if they would be on top or at bottom)?

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like e.g.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_2_1948/49#1.FC_Saarbr%C3%BCcken%E2%80%93_sportlicher_und_politischer_Streitfall

or

https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/wm-2022-katar-spielt-in-europaeischer-qualifikation-mit-um-besser-zu-werden-a-537c9703-84dd-45a9-b5a3-6633074ed3d7

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So that it would be made easier for players to participate, as they wouldn't have to bother about ending at the bottom of the ranking, which could be a pretty frustrating/disappointing imagination... As said, I do not want to push that thought at the very last minute, but maybe we could win with this option some more players for taking part in the tournament, if giving this option would be OK for the participants-as-yet? (just asking)

Concerning map suggestions: I think it really doesn't matter for me, because the game's outcome will be the same for me on whatever map ;-), but what is just coming to my mind are maps like Along The River, New Zealand, Europe, The Great Lakes – Ports In Danger (don't know if anything of them is balanced/fitting for tournament-play), but I would play on every given map, of course (and if I don't win, it will have just been the „wrong map“ every single time, of course, too )

Do I understand it right, that to install and test the release candidate version, one has to deinstall version 1.0 before? But that the saveloading data / old games data did not get lost by changing the versions?

Sorry for the long post!

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P.S.:

By the way, in the long term, for the next tournaments, maybe we could ttry to find out with a polling or so, for what different reasons other players didn't participate in tournaments in the past, so that we maybe could alter the tournaments that way that it would become even more attractive to other players to participate. E.g. if the thought of getting slaughtered/overrun by the best players is not that nice, as I can understand, then maybe future tournaments could be split in one way or the other, e.g. that first everyone plays everyone („group stage“), and after that the better half of the players play each other to dtermine the tournament winner, and the lower half of the players play for the „Golden Ananas award“ or the „Golden flag award“ or whatever. g (split play-off stage), so that there would be more games between players which are on a similar level... like e.g. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play-off#Andere_Fu%C3%9Fball-Play-offs

Or, like in e.g. sports competiitons, it could be a possibility to have one competition for the stronger players (first/major/champions league / widelands league 1) and another one for the weaker players (second/minor/conference league / widelands league 2), and every player could every year choose for a new and freely in which of that two tournament groups he wants to participate (so that there would not only be an Erstligameister, but a Zweitligameister also). But all of that are just vague ideas for a different thread to come, not proposed suggestions.

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Unfortunately I had not that much time to playtest enough maps for all rounds yet.
However I found a map suitable for the first round fulfilling my criteria:

so the first round will be played on:
https://www.widelands.org/maps/crater-lake/

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I'm thinking about participating if noone else shows up to make the number even, but I'd probably only be able to play late nights. And of course I'd be competing for last place with Seefahrer.

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Ok,
for the friends of smaller maps I found an interesting one for Round 2:

https://www.widelands.org/maps/inselkrieger/

If no objections until Sunday this will be round 2.

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