Topic: Tournament 2022

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Seefahrer Joined: 2022-04-29, 17:24 Posts: 58 Likes to be here	Posted at: 2022-10-16, 17:00 I have just seen on Wideland's website's mainpage, that the release candidate for version 1.1 is out now! First of all: Thanks to everyone who has contributed to that! Second thought: Shall we then play the last round 5 of this test tournament with the new version? Top Quote

Nordfriese Joined: 2017-01-17, 17:07 Posts: 2112 OS: Debian Testing Version: Latest master One Elder of Players Location: 0x55555d3a34c0	Posted at: 2022-10-16, 17:04 Actually the release candidate is fully replay-compatible with the Tournament version. There have been no gameplay-technical changes. I played my game against Mars yesterday with the RC while he used the Tournament tag. So we can use both interchangeably, and it would definitely be appreciated to give the RC some testing Note: Master is about to receive the first post-1.1 changes, so the latest development version and the daily PPA may soon not be compatible with the Tournament version and RC any more. Top Quote

kaputtnik Joined: 2013-02-18, 19:48 Posts: 2647 OS: Archlinux Version: current master One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 10:57 Just to be sure: So the latest compatible commit is 1b75c42e33 ? Top Quote

Nordfriese Joined: 2017-01-17, 17:07 Posts: 2112 OS: Debian Testing Version: Latest master One Elder of Players Location: 0x55555d3a34c0	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 11:10 Yes. `1b75c42e33` belongs to the `release-1.1` branch. So all commits up to and including this one are compatible, and future commits to the release branch (i.e., the final v1.1) will be compatible too (unless we find a new critical gamestate-changing bug that requires a backport). On master, the latest commit just now is `fb92af1`, and there are two more PRs incoming later today. They too should still be compatible. However, using the new UI feature (more convenient worker evicting) when it's not available to all participants would be unfair, even if it's just a small feature. So master `86b9396` and newer should not be used for the tournament. Top Quote

kaputtnik Joined: 2013-02-18, 19:48 Posts: 2647 OS: Archlinux Version: current master One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 11:24 hessenfarmer wrote: ok I now decided that round 5 will be played on official Map "Four Mountains". Normal trees will likely not grow on this map, only the spezial amazon trees will grow well. A pity for players who don't want to play amazons Maybe it's time for those players to learn to play an other tribe than empire Top Quote

kaputtnik Joined: 2013-02-18, 19:48 Posts: 2647 OS: Archlinux Version: current master One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 11:25 Nordfriese wrote: On master, the latest commit just now is `fb92af1`, and there are two more PRs incoming later today. They too should still be compatible. However, using the new UI feature (more convenient worker evicting) when it's not available to all participants would be unfair, even if it's just a small feature. So master `86b9396` and newer should not be used for the tournament. Thanks for clarifying Top Quote

tothxa Joined: 2021-03-24, 11:44 Posts: 511 OS: antix / Debian Version: some new PR I'm testing One Elder of Players	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 12:16 kaputtnik wrote: Normal trees will likely not grow on this map, only the spezial amazon trees will grow well. A pity for players who don't want to play amazons Maybe it's time for those players to learn to play an other tribe than empire There are taiga fields scattered all over, and also some taiga regions, where some winter trees grow reasonably well. At most you need 2 foresters per lumberjack, or more like 3:2 or even 4:3 on pure taiga. I've already played a training game: Edited: 2022-10-17, 12:18 Attachment: image/png Top Quote

WorldSavior Joined: 2016-10-15, 03:10 Posts: 2145 OS: Linux Version: Recent tournament version One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 16:49 hessenfarmer wrote: ok I now decided that round 5 will be played on official Map "Four Mountains". to make it a bit more interesting I think about allowing custom start positions. Any opinions? Actually the map is not very balanced and its not nice that trees grow that badly there Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote

the-x Joined: 2019-01-19, 12:23 Posts: 967 One Elder of Players	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 21:00 How can this map not be balanced? It is an open map and has 4 ressources on each side. If you speak about balance, you mean that units or building of the different tribes are not balanced. It is good that we have at least 1 open map. Top Quote

hessenfarmer Topic Opener Joined: 2014-12-11, 22:16 Posts: 2798 One Elder of Players Location: Bavaria	Posted at: 2022-10-17, 21:13 WorldSavior wrote: hessenfarmer wrote: ok I now decided that round 5 will be played on official Map "Four Mountains". to make it a bit more interesting I think about allowing custom start positions. Any opinions? Actually the map is not very balanced and its not nice that trees grow that badly there Well, to overcome some imbalance of the starting positions with respect to the placement of the surrounding immovables, I thought about custom start positions. If we restrict them to the quadrant of the own starting position, would this be fair enough? tree growth is equal for everybody and part of the challenge for this round, I believe. Edited: 2022-10-17, 21:13 Top Quote

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