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Nick222

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Posted at: 2024-12-20, 16:35

When Sumatrans word is ON - it appear error while attempt to play with European tribe addon - see screenshot in attachment.


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OIPUN
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Posted at: 2024-12-20, 21:17

But rubber tree does not have attribute "rubber_tree_mature" and Amazons are working fine. This is probably a special attribute of the Europeans. You can try moving the Sumatran add-ons under the European add-on. But in this case the Sumatran tribe will probably not work properly, because I am also adding special attributes to the tropical trees. It should not crash but Sumatran woodcutters will probably not harvest the 3 types of tropical trees, not able to recognize them. In this case, the European tribe would need to add the Sumatran attributes. I can add the European attribute in the next update, in January probably. I did not install the European add-on, so I really do not have any idea what attributes is this tribe using. So till the next update, the tribes seem not to be compatible. Thank you, for letting me know.

Edited: 2024-12-20, 21:19

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Posted at: 2024-12-20, 22:10

Yes, I added a special attribute to the mature rubber trees so that my lumberjacks can also produce rubber from mature trees before cutting down the old trees. If I only use the old trees, the rubber production is to small because the trees are cut down for the production of logs before the rubber is extracted.

Edited: 2024-12-20, 22:10

My widelands addons: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jopANlODo41T2reHJ0zaCOMYxq_rxXP-/view?usp=sharing

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Posted at: 2024-12-21, 00:29

mxb2001 wrote:

Yeah in my third game now (they froze in Antartica, surrendered) in the more hospitable Borneo (regular version this time) and basically you need to watch 3 buildings for training: Hunter's Tent for Hunter -> Chief Hunter, Weaving Mill for Weaver -> Dressmaker & Basic Workshop for Craftsman -> Experienced Craftsman. You don't start with the levelled up ones (or not enough) so you gotta train these 3. Ooops. 4. Also the Coppersmith's for the Coppersmith -> Armoursmith.

Not sure I remember right but are the level ups help files supposed to have a link to the lower version so that you don't have to guess which it is? They seem to be there the other way which is useless. If I need a Dressmaker and I look it up how do I find the name of the Weaver? It's not in the Dressmaker help file. But the Weaver file tells me all about the Dressmaker which is pointless. If I knew it was the Weaver the Dressmaker came from...... Catch 22. Ditto for Armoursmith although that one's not hard to guess.

PR to fix the help is up on GH. https://github.com/widelands/widelands/pull/6591


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Posted at: 2024-12-21, 04:59

OIPUN wrote:

mxb2001 wrote:

Sumatrans not only have weaker soldiers (graph rates them 30 vs 45 for others (except one that's 40 Empire? Atlantean?)) but they were difficult to train, I think because of meal shortages (hard to rectify with little space!) although I was starting to build food on my Borneo colonies.

Sumatrans soldiers are not weak. The weakest soldiers are Barbarians and then Empire. Sumatrans are somewhere in the middle. As for the graph, you probably saw 40 vs 45 not 30 vs 45 and that is because while playing HQ, Sumatrans were starting with 40 warriors only and most of the other tribes starts with 45. But that is newly changed in the 2.0.0 version. As I wrote that I had changed the starting conditions a little bit, this is one of the changes. Sumatran HQ has also 45 warriors at the beginning of a new game now.

Ah, thanks for explaining how that graph works. Guess it gives 1 point per soldier. Adds all the training levels (1 point each probably).

I also seem to have assumed the graph weighted each tribe's soldiers differently but that's not the case then.


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Posted at: 2024-12-22, 10:15

A new version 2.0.1 of Sumatran world uploaded. Collision with Europeans solved by adding European program and attributes to the rubber tree. Removed tropical trees changed to display European immovable help properly. Dead tree 7 changed.


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Posted at: Yesterday 20:50

OIPUN wrote:

A new version 2.0.1 of Sumatran world uploaded. Collision with Europeans solved by adding European program and attributes to the rubber tree. Removed tropical trees changed to display European immovable help properly. Dead tree 7 changed.

Thanks, this seems to have worked. Trying out them Europeans now. Very different which is cool. The more tribes the merrier I say.


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