Topic: Sumatrans Tribe

When Sumatrans word is ON - it appear error while attempt to play with European tribe addon - see screenshot in attachment.

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Yes, I added a special attribute to the mature rubber trees so that my lumberjacks can also produce rubber from mature trees before cutting down the old trees. If I only use the old trees, the rubber production is to small because the trees are cut down for the production of logs before the rubber is extracted.

My widelands addons: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jopANlODo41T2reHJ0zaCOMYxq_rxXP-/view?usp=sharing

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OIPUN wrote:

mxb2001 wrote:

Sumatrans not only have weaker soldiers (graph rates them 30 vs 45 for others (except one that's 40 Empire? Atlantean?)) but they were difficult to train, I think because of meal shortages (hard to rectify with little space!) although I was starting to build food on my Borneo colonies.

Sumatrans soldiers are not weak. The weakest soldiers are Barbarians and then Empire. Sumatrans are somewhere in the middle. As for the graph, you probably saw 40 vs 45 not 30 vs 45 and that is because while playing HQ, Sumatrans were starting with 40 warriors only and most of the other tribes starts with 45. But that is newly changed in the 2.0.0 version. As I wrote that I had changed the starting conditions a little bit, this is one of the changes. Sumatran HQ has also 45 warriors at the beginning of a new game now.

Ah, thanks for explaining how that graph works. Guess it gives 1 point per soldier. Adds all the training levels (1 point each probably).

I also seem to have assumed the graph weighted each tribe's soldiers differently but that's not the case then.

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OIPUN wrote:

A new version 2.0.1 of Sumatran world uploaded. Collision with Europeans solved by adding European program and attributes to the rubber tree. Removed tropical trees changed to display European immovable help properly. Dead tree 7 changed.

Thanks, this seems to have worked. Trying out them Europeans now. Very different which is cool. The more tribes the merrier I say.

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Teayo wrote:

Change request : immovable "palm leaves" from size small to size none
Request reason : Street building collision

The problem with size reduction of palm leaves is, that I usually play with visible building spaces. I think all of us do. And when are the building spaces visible and size of palm leaves is none, the icons cover the immovable and you are not able to see it. And when you build new roads quickly, you happen to destroy the immovable without even knowing that there was one. Which from my point of view is bigger problem than that the place is blocked for 4 minutes. Building a leaf gatherer's hut is solving this issue completely. And at the beginning of a game, when you need to expand quickly, you also have leaves shortages. So you have to wait till the immovable is collected anyway. When you are training many new soldiers, your palm leaves consumption is also very high and you need to know where the uncollected leaves are. I played many games and do not see this as an issue any more. I was always able to expand my territory quickly and seeing the immovable is important for you.

Wiki : Sumatrans Wares

Thank you for the wiki. I didn't know that some information about the tribe are already available on the web page. I think most of the info should not change anymore. I see the tribe as being really well balanced. The only thing that should change for sure is graphics but that may take some time as my work on the tribe is not that intense now.

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