Topic: New swamp terrain

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Astuur Topic Opener Joined: 2009-02-28, 10:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-05-05, 07:22 I like the texture of Fraangs new swamp terrain. The color seems a little too blueish and "clean". Maybe a "dirty" green, -> olive, would be better? Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

fraang Joined: 2010-02-15, 13:13 Posts: 239 Widelands-Forum-Junkie	Posted at: 2011-05-05, 13:02 I think the olive green would remind to much of the "dry" grass. But I am interessted what ohters think of it. Top Quote

Venatrix Joined: 2010-10-05, 20:31 Posts: 447 Tribe Member Location: Germany	Posted at: 2011-05-05, 13:27 Well, could one of you perhaps provide a picture of the current vs. the new version, please? Its hard to discuss something, if you cant see, what youre talking about. Two is the oddest prime. Top Quote

fraang Joined: 2010-02-15, 13:13 Posts: 239 Widelands-Forum-Junkie	Posted at: 2011-05-05, 17:25 Here is screenshot of the new one: http://wl.widelands.org/forum/topic/672/?page=9#post-4990 At the moment I can't make a screenshot of the old one because I am not on my own machine. Top Quote

Astuur Topic Opener Joined: 2009-02-28, 10:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-05-05, 18:50 I do not have Fraang's source file with the new texture, so this is the old texture, but with colors I find suitable for Greenland swamp. Compared with the current one, the texture is a little contrast enhanced, and the tint is slightly olive/brown. If anyone wants to try out in the editor, then here is the /Widelands/worlds/greenland/pics/sumpf_00.png Here is the swamp, as it currentl is, for comparison..... Next idea is , to try some specks and patches of water inside the bitmap Edited: 2011-05-06, 17:26 Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

Astuur Topic Opener Joined: 2009-02-28, 10:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-05-07, 07:42 Here is a draft on that idea Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

ajasio Joined: 2009-10-01, 02:42 Posts: 5 Just found this site	Posted at: 2011-05-08, 09:09 hi. About the Swamp Texture: I made it mutch years ago primary as 'animated' texture witch looks more like a wet swamp. But 5-6 years ago widelands wasn't so sophisticated. but..uhm. Today I don't like the textures. *g I hoped there have today a higher resolution/use a bigger pattern. (actually is it only 16x16pix(?)) Thats was the reason why the water looks so....ugly. PS: Excuse my bad english. Edited: 2011-05-08, 09:14 Top Quote

chuckw Joined: 2010-03-15, 16:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-08-02, 15:18 Sorry about the late post, but I am just now getting back up to speed. @ajasio: Thanks for your comments and your pioneering work! (And no apologies needed for your English! You don't want to see my German! :D) Animating the texture would certainly convey the unstable nature of the ground. I'd like to see some animation restored. I like fraang's new texture, too, but I agree it could be "dirtier" (maybe more algae and green water). Doctor it up and then we'll see about animating it. I see little people. Top Quote

Astuur Topic Opener Joined: 2009-02-28, 10:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2011-08-15, 07:43 Chuck wrote: Animating the texture would certainly convey the unstable nature of the ground. I'd like to see some animation restored. I agree --- but what exactly is it, that should be animated? There are no real waves (like with the ice_flows animations) - so what should be the driving force? What movements are there in a swamp? Wind on water patches, maybe. Some bubbles emerging from time to time. (but 1 bubble on each and every tile within a reasonable playing time for the animation, will give you a sychronized "boiling" effect and looks ridiculous.) hmm... any ideas, anyone? Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

chuckw Joined: 2010-03-15, 16:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2011-08-15, 19:57 I was thinking of animation along the lines of a gentle undulation (waves). We don't want it too pronounced, though, and we don't want to produce another "synchronized swimming" or as you put it, "boiling" effect. No one said this would be easy... I see little people. Top Quote

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