Topic: New roads
kaputtnik
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Joined: 2013-02-18, 20:48
Posts: 2552 OS: Archlinux Version: current master  One Elder of Players Location: Germany |
Posted at: 2015-01-23, 17:34
Here are the screens with this branch:
Not really nice for small buildings
The busy Road could be thicker... but as road to small buildings ok.
This is ok 
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GunChleoc
Joined: 2013-10-07, 15:56
Posts: 3317 One Elder of Players Location: RenderedRect |
Posted at: 2015-01-23, 20:22
I think the reason that the busy road doesn't look good for Empire buildings is that it is so much brighter than the normal road. Two solutions come to mind:
I'm not sure I like the concave for the Atlanteans. It looks constructed that way on purpose, and there would be no reason for people to do that. So, I prefer the nervous one. The thickenings do make sense, like a waiting area or passing place. Busy indexing nil values
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DragonAtma
Joined: 2014-09-14, 01:54
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Posted at: 2015-01-23, 21:07
Heavier-used roads have been deliberately constructed for a long time. This road, for example, is form Pompeii (and, therefore, dates back at least to 79 AD): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PompeiiStreet.jpg Dirt is suitable for minor roads, but historically something sturdier was needed for major roads.
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SirVer
Joined: 2009-02-19, 15:18
Posts: 1440 One Elder of Players Location: Germany - Munich |
Posted at: 2015-01-23, 22:24
I propose a third one: if the flag of a building has a busy road attached use a busy road, otherwise use a normal road.
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chuckw
Joined: 2010-03-15, 16:23
Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA |
Posted at: 2015-01-24, 04:30
Do you propose that a building that started out with a normal road for its approach would a) have its approach updated if one of the roads at its flag became busy? Or b) it keeps that road texture throughout the game regardless of any upgrades to roads at its flag? I see little people.
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DragonAtma
Joined: 2014-09-14, 01:54
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Posted at: 2015-01-24, 08:56
if a major road appears there, then why not have its approach road become a major road? Sure, there could be an underused building on a major road (say, a rarely-used port is attached to the road between the often-used lumberjack and the often-used sawmill), but even then it'd make sense for the road to be upgraded for appearances. It reminds me of a suggestion I considered making but never did (upgrading intersections on busy roads to hold more wares, say 8/8 -> 6/12 or even 8/16). So I don't know if that's feasible or recommended, but the point is, when I thought about it I came to the conclusion it'd be best to have the spots at every intersection of every busy road be the ones that would get upgraded. And yes, I realize that the answer to the need for holding more wares is "Be more efficient instead of moving everything through chokepoints!", but...
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kaputtnik
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Posted at: 2015-01-24, 10:27
Yes you are right. Making the busy road colored more like the HQ looks better. In this screen the pattern is not ready but the differenece to this screen should be seen (the norml road is taken from babarians, a more pebbled pattern):
I think it was meant this way. I believe SirVer is looking for more graphical variations/dynamics. Related to this: I noticed that a busy road forever will be a busy road, regardless of the frequency wares are transported. IMHO there should be a function that turns busy roads into normal roads back if the traffic decreases.
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GunChleoc
Joined: 2013-10-07, 15:56
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Posted at: 2015-01-24, 12:02
Are you sure? I noticed the opposite - roads will return to normal roads when they're not busy anymore. Busy indexing nil values
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wl-zocker
Joined: 2011-12-30, 17:37
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Posted at: 2015-01-24, 12:15
I think the algorithm is as follows: When x wares had to wait, request a second carrier. When y wares were transported immediately without the need for a second carrier, release it. It therefore takes some time until the road changes its appearance. If a busy road is not used at all (or very seldom), it stays busy for a long time.
I think that is a good approach. "Only few people know how much one has to know in order to know how little one knows." - Werner Heisenberg
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GunChleoc
Joined: 2013-10-07, 15:56
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Posted at: 2015-01-24, 12:19
The road code is a bit tricky with lots of bitwise manipulation. I would need to change the north-west road for a flag that has a building, but there are only constants for east, south-east and south-west available. Busy indexing nil values
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