Topic: Content and looks of the new "cheap in-game help"

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Venatrix Joined: 2010-10-05, 19:31 Posts: 447 Tribe Member Location: Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-20, 17:59 Hmm Well, you dont have to restart WL after each modification. Just reopen the window in question. Thats how I did it. Two is the oddest prime. Top Quote

Venatrix Joined: 2010-10-05, 19:31 Posts: 447 Tribe Member Location: Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-20, 19:30 Astuur wrote: I know, what Sirver will answer: "Not at this time" True. Anyhow, thank you for the files, and of course the your work behind those. I will try to figure out, if and how I can use your formatting elements by analogy. I am not sure how far that will carry with someone as "programming illeterate" as myself, but I can try." Its mostly a case of copy and paste. By the way: It should be no problem taking the needed functions out of the single help files and collecting them in one file in the scripting folder (could be formatting.lua or a new file). Then you dont need the header of the file and the formatting of the help is definitely consistent. In case I utterly fail, would you be willing to do some formatting for source text I provide? Sure. And if so, you might want to tell me, what format you'd want the text and/or graphics in. Well, plain text and path of the graphics. Or as PDF, if thats easier for you. But maybe I can answers that myself, once I have looked at your .lua files? Hmm, perhaps I should have commented the functions Let's see... again thanks Venatrix! Youre welcome. Two is the oddest prime. Top Quote

Venatrix Joined: 2010-10-05, 19:31 Posts: 447 Tribe Member Location: Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-22, 21:37 Venatrix wrote: By the way: It should be no problem taking the needed functions out of the single help files and collecting them in one file in the scripting folder (could be formatting.lua or a new file). Then you dont need the header of the file and the formatting of the help is definitely consistent. Well, I gave it a try and yes, its really as easy as I thought. I made a new file format_help.lua for the scripting folder (I even tried to comment the functions). When you have that you can use the help file (is recommended, the older one uses a function not really needed) with the same effect. The function definitions in the help_long.lua is not necessary (never was), too. And I have a newer version of the formatting.lua available, but Im not really sure, what has changed since the last upload I dont think it is something vital. By the way: I overwrote the older versions and deleted the help.lua from one of my last posts. Perhaps a bad idea but I didnt think about it twice Edited: 2012-02-22, 21:37 Two is the oddest prime. Top Quote

Astuur Topic Opener Joined: 2009-02-28, 09:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-23, 07:04 Thank you, will look at it asap Venatrix wrote: By the way: I overwrote the older versions and deleted the help.lua from one of my last posts. Perhaps a bad idea but I didnt think about it twice Don't worry, I saved both versions already to my HDD Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

Astuur Topic Opener Joined: 2009-02-28, 09:08 Posts: 733 One Elder of Players Location: Frankfurt / Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-28, 18:20 Given the time limit, I try to primarily get some texts for some buildings done. I prepare 2 versions each. One version is an example of how the actual text may look like formatted. Just an example --- other ways certainly exist, and this can be changed, depending on what is possible. I could do this a lot nicer, but as I am not quite sure what formatting codes can currently be done with the lua help files, I have tried to restrict formatting to the very basics. No tabs, no tables no columns, no graphic elements other than pictures. I know the brown lines cannot be done, but I've kept them for better orientation. Same for the yellow headings' background; but the background will brown anyway (wood grain). There is an pdf file, and unfortunately it is only a pdf from a screenshot. I have no way of doing the formatiing right for the pdf. So this pdf version is just for getting a grasp on how it may look -- and maybe for others to correct my writing lingustically, orthographically and so on.... (Chuck, you're reading me? ) The second version is pure ASCII with [CR][LF] endings. In this I have put all the paths to the pictures I have used at their proper place. I hope that this version may be helpful for actually creating a formatted .lua help file. Right now, I am not investing the time to try to actually come up with a formatted final lua version, since I still have a problem with understanding the syntax. Confusing for me. If anybody can lend a hand to do this work, I'd be very happy. BTW, I don't think it makes sense to exactly repeat the same subheadings (typically the part before a colon ":"), for each and every house in question; not even in the "at a glance version". They will vary a bit. This is not good for an automated formatting, but I prefer a hand-made look anyway. Would it help if I used Unicode? So here are the two example file files: @Venatrix - anything I could do better to make all this more useful? the .pdf the ASCII-file Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills. I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino). Top Quote

Venatrix Joined: 2010-10-05, 19:31 Posts: 447 Tribe Member Location: Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-28, 19:45 Just a short question: On account of the lack of time and a possibility to get tabs in the help, we focus on the short view, do we? Two is the oddest prime. Top Quote

chuckw Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2012-02-28, 20:11 Astuur wrote: ...So this pdf version is just for getting a grasp on how it may look -- and maybe for others to correct my writing lingustically, orthographically and so on.... (Chuck, you're reading me? ) I'm reading you, friend. I'll review your content and report back. For file exchange, might I suggest utilising the Bug Report #676955? That way we need not rely on third-party services. I see little people. Top Quote

chuckw Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2012-02-28, 21:06 I have posted the proofed pdf AND ascii files in the Launchpad Bug Report #676995 Good work! Chuck I see little people. Top Quote

Venatrix Joined: 2010-10-05, 19:31 Posts: 447 Tribe Member Location: Germany	Posted at: 2012-02-28, 21:40 chuckw wrote: I have posted the proofed pdf AND ascii files in the Launchpad Bug Report #676995 Right, thanks, I will stick to this. For file exchange, might I suggest utilising the Bug Report #676955? That way we need not rely on third-party services. Well, we hoped that other players, that normally do not use Launchpad, would join the discussion. BTW: How do you attach a plain text file without it being written as comment? I dont understand the system Two is the oddest prime. Top Quote

chuckw Joined: 2010-03-15, 15:23 Posts: 945 One Elder of Players Location: New York - USA	Posted at: 2012-02-29, 01:21 Venatrix wrote: Well, we hoped that other players, that normally do not use Launchpad, would join the discussion. You make a good point. I am merely trying to keep things simple (for me anyway) :) If there is a need for non-Launchpad users to access the stuff I post here (which will primarily just be proofed and edited copy), I'll certainly make that available to them. BTW: How do you attach a plain text file without it being written as comment? I dont understand the system By "system...", are you referring to Launchpad? If so, there is a link at the very bottom of the Bug Report page under the "Add Comment" box that allows you to "Add attachment or patch". Clicking on that opens a dialogue where you can browse to the file on your PC that you wish to upload. If that didn't answer your question, let me know. Cheers! Chuck I see little people. Top Quote

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